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hatorihanzoe · Apr 23, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35

Instead of thinking creative ways of nerfing this and that to stop botting and causing inflation, not to mention how much harder and how much longer one need to spend on playing the game to afford anything decent. Why not implement a 3rd party independent program that sole purpose is to detect botting instead? Heard of the free online game called Gunbound? I used to play it a lot until guild wars came to play. Well Gunbound had another independent program running in the background that detects solely botters and hacks. I think it would be much better for both the economy of GW and the innocent farmers if this program was to be integrated although a bit late in the game and in its 3rd installment. I mean look at how much GW has changed in its battle to stop botters? Simply outsource a company to make the program and we are all set. I missed how back then you can solo everything, make a fortune and afford everything. Inflation or not, you still make a darn good amount of gold to afford it all.

Faer · Apr 23, 2007, 05:22 AM // 05:22

Third-party programs like that are far too easy to bypass. A better solution would be for a more active GM team to take direct action, or perhaps for more unnoticeable changes such as the interface updates which have indirectly halted botters for short periods due to positioning and coloration changes.

Relying on another program to get the job done simply isn't a very viable solution.

holababe · Apr 23, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Ever heard of WoW's Warden?
Except Warden's completely invasive and unethical.

bilateralrope · Apr 23, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

There are two possible ways a program such as that could work:

1 - It only blocks programs known to be a problem. But this means that a minor change to the program will cause it to bypass the protection. And then there is the problem of ANET getting hold of the bot programs so they know what they need to block.

2 - It blocks all programs that might cause problems. But then you run into it blocking legitimate programs as well as the problem ones. There was a high profile incident recently where WoW updated its program and also blocked people using Cedega to run WoW under Linux.

Master Ketsu · Apr 23, 2007, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Bad idea. No matter what Anet does, theres still no way to stop botters from simply making their own script macro for their mouse to move around.

MithranArkanere · Apr 23, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Yeah.

They only way to stop botters is to stop them when their characters are bot-controled, not prevent programs to run.

That could be made by a 'flag' option, if a lot of people flag a character as 'bot', then a GM takes a look at it, and decide if it is a bot or not.

Puliver · Apr 23, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Yeah.

They only way to stop botters is to stop them when their characters are bot-controled, not prevent programs to run.

That could be made by a 'flag' option, if a lot of people flag a character as 'bot', then a GM takes a look at it, and decide if it is a bot or not.

Maybe for this detection a better thing is, how many hours was a player in a zone without grouping with other players? if he was enough hours in one zone then he's most likely to be a bot, because no one is gonna be whole day only in one zone doing the same thing.

hatorihanzoe · Apr 23, 2007, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

Bad idea. No matter what Anet does, theres still no way to stop botters from simply making their own script macro for their mouse to move around.

A 3rd party program will be of course updated often enough, the ones I've seen Gunbound uses prevent programs of any macro related or just simple botting altogether. Anet wouldn't be involve much of it suggesting it to be outsourced to a company that specialize in this sort of thing.

bilateralrope · Apr 23, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by hatorihanzoe

A 3rd party program will be of course updated often enough, the ones I've seen Gunbound uses prevent programs of any macro related or just simple botting altogether. Anet wouldn't be involve much of it suggesting it to be outsourced to a company that specialize in this sort of thing.

And how exactly would the people running the program know what scripts need blocking ?